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Markey or Lynch: Who Would You Vote for Today?

Democratic Congressmen Ed Markey and Stephen Lynch will face off in a primary on April 30 in the race to fill the Massachusetts Senate seat vacated by new Secretary of State John Kerry. And now, there may be a Republican challenger.

 

 

We have a race.

On Thursday, U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch became the second candidate to officially enter the race to fill the Senate seat vacated by brand-new Secretary of State John Kerry, following his fellow Democratic Congressman Ed Markey.

Lynch and Markey will now face off in a primary set for April 30 for the right to represent the Democratic Party in the special election on June 25 against a still unknown Republican opponent.

No GOP candidate has officially entered the race yet. Former U.S. Sen. Scott Brown announced Friday that he would not run for Senate. But late Friday afternoon, Republican Richard Tisei said he was mulling the idea of running for the seat. Last fall, Tisei lost his challenge to John Tierney for the Sixth Congressional District seat.

There are differences between Lynch and Markey, despite being members of the same party. Lynch voted against Obamacare, officially called the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, while Markey voted for the bill.

Lynch also has an anti-abortion stance, although it's not absolute—Planned Parenthood currently gives him a score of 83 percent to Markey's 100 percent. The National Right to Life Committee, meanwhile, gave Lynch a score of 10 percent during the last Congressional session, while Markey received a zero.

The most recent National Journal rankings from 2011 give Markey a liberal score of 89.2, making him the 41st most liberal member of the House, while Lynch received a liberal score of 72.8, ranking him the 123rd most liberal member of the House.

Lynch also touts his union support as a former ironworker who then graduated from law school and later won his current congressional seat in 2001, while Markey, also a lawyer by trade, was first elected to Congress in 1976.

Another potential factor: the state's unenrolled voters, who can choose to cast a ballot in any party's primary. More than half of Bay State voters are registered as unenrolled, which would allow unenrolled voters who lean right to vote in the Democratic primary for Lynch — or against Markey — if they decide to show up at the polls. During the special Senate election in 2010 between Brown and state Attorney General Martha Coakley, during the height of the Obamacare debate, 54 percent of registered Massachusetts voters turned out.

Who would you vote for if the primary were held today: Lynch or Markey? Are you an unenrolled voter and, if so, do you plan to vote in the Democratic primary on April 30? Tell us your plans to vote in the comments below.

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Related Topics: Edward Markey, Massachusetts special election, and Stephen Lynch

Dawn

7:20 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Markey,no question. I'm registered for voting! Markey has been for stricter gun laws, before Newtown! I read Markey's porposal to vice president Biden.

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GB

9:17 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Just remember--when seconds matter, the police are only minutes away. They are not there to protect you.They carry weapons for their own protection.Think about it.

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Moudsie

3:16 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Markey for sure -- I've seen Lynch on tv twice since he announced and both times he's dissed Markey--he's just a mean little man.

Earnhardt

7:35 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013

If I had to pick between the two, It would be Lynch. Although I notice he throws his Ironworker status around quite a bit. Funny how Scott Brown took heat for the Pickup Truck, but It seems to be OK to throw the Iron around. Lynch for now, but hoping someone else jumps in

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Joseph G. Paquette

7:44 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013

I am voting for Ed Markey, I am working for his campaign, Our family has and will be donating to his campaign for Ed Markey's support. Speaking of the no notice of the ironworker status being become a noted item on Stephen Lnych's resume, when did Western Massachusetts receive such attention from the representative of South Boston?

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Judi Friedson

9:05 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Definitely Ed Markey. Obamacare is a critical first step towards fixing our broken health care system and I believe that every woman should have the right to choose an abortion. Markey also commands more respect in Washington and therefore, is a better spokesperson for the needs of our state. I do miss Ted Kennedy and his artful ability to get things done in Washington and Massachusetts.

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JL

8:28 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Since we currently have the best health care in the world, you really believe that more government involvement will make it better? Keep dreaming.

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Aron Levy

9:31 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

JL, you really believe we have the best healthcare in the world?

Something tells me that you don't have very many stamps on your passport...

GB

9:20 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Almost any Republican who lives in his own district.

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Dawn

9:41 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Markey, from 1 who's " Independant"

Michael Fleming

10:09 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Anyone with an (R) behind his name...

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Moudsie

6:11 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

good idea -- vote for anyone who will destroy this country faster -- brilliant.

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CP

8:41 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Ditto Michael - I'm tired of speeches and no action anywhere.

MJ

11:00 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Markey, for sure! Lynch is not pro-choice and voted against the Affordable Care Act.

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Adam Maleson

12:58 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Why does the word Mob come to mind when I hear the name Lynch?

Oh well, I don't suppose I give a hang about it.

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Moudsie

9:10 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

You are so right -- and you do "get it."

John Hennessey

1:29 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

I just got back from Ed Markey's announcement in Malden. He is an eloquent speaker and advocate for Women's Right To Choose, Global Warming, Environmental Protection, and has been very effective as "Our Guy" in Washington for many years. I'm fired up and ready to go!

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Carolyn A. Gritter

3:52 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Ed Markey will get my vote because of his voting record, and his leadership ability.
His willingness to speak his mind to power goes back to his days on Beacon Hill when he ran afoul of the Speaker, who had Markey's desk moved into the corridor as punishment for some offense against his authority.

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Michael Fleming

4:32 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Yeah...it's the republicans that run the mob. No union connections, no city wide graft. Pretty smart. Say, aren't the last two State Speakers ....who both currently reside in jail, weren't they Dems? Right, strong work Binder Woman. Good balanced summation of the way things are...

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GB

6:14 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

I think you are correct (can't say "right"--might offend some lefties. Wonder how many fire hydrants Kerry will get moved down in D.C. and if he'll dock his yacht on the Potomac to avoid some Mass. tax?

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Moudsie

9:12 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Probably--(the last two Dems) but at least one moved to another state and is now a Repukelican -- they just say they are Dems to get the votes -- but in reality--are GOPers.

Edward Stark

5:08 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

My vote will be for Punxsutawney Phil. Unlike Ed Markey at least we see him once a year!

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NWBL

8:38 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

I'm a Markey supporter but that's still very funny!

Reader99

5:18 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Please Scott run for Governor. Mass needs you.

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Moudsie

6:12 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

OMG--no we don't--he's an empty suit -- but I guess if you want someone who voted against clean air, clean water, equal pay for women and health care -- he's you're kind of guy.

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Reader99

2:51 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Moudsie, We don't need another democratic governor. If you want to pay more money iin taxes just send the state a donation.

Mara

5:57 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

ABB (anyone but Brown). That turns out to be an easy option this year. :D

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NWBL

8:36 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Eddie Maah-key will get my vote but then the question would become "who would be our new congressperson"?

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Anne

1:47 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

What a bunch of liberals. No wonder this state is so corrupt with only Democrats running it. I would vote for Lynch. You liberals should speak to the people he represents. He is always visible and there for them, unlike Markey who forgot where he lived until he decided to run for the Senate. I do hope there are some good Republicans that will at least make the race interesting.

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CP

8:48 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

I agree. I am hoping a republican gets into the race since I don't like the choices but if forced to vote between the two, it will be Lynch.

Walthamguy

11:16 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Markey doesn't even live in Massachusetts...!

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Aron Levy

5:10 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Isn't that cute. Walthamguy thinks he's being original!

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Moudsie

6:13 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Really--odd that his next door neighbor in MA sees him all the time.

Irishwhisky

5:00 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

This is like being asked do you want to be hanged or shot

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Aron Levy

5:09 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Irish, you're obviously a mean drunk.

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CP

8:44 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Have to agree with Irish, duck...it's a drone.

Michael Fleming

11:40 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

The word I think you are floundering for is "Google".

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Michael Fleming

4:40 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Steve, think about it...why on EARTH would I be compelled to pose as two different people on this or any other blog site? What would compel me to go through such effort and machinations? What would be my reward? What advantage would it confer on me? I just don't get you sometimes.

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RubyTuesday

8:24 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Hmm, you sound very knowledgeable on the subject Steven.

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Michael Fleming

9:02 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Cavaretta, you are truely pathetic.

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Michael Fleming

12:13 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Boy, you got everything and everybody figured out, dontcha'? So I control Ruby Tuesday as well, do I? I have a "myriad of aliases" now? So, anybody that might agree with me, is in reality just another name I post under? This whole blog site is just ME...in various disguises, arguing with others?
I don't say this with any animosity...honestly, but you've got a screw loose somewhere. Trying to reason with a person who has abandoned reason, is like trying to give medicine to a dead person.
Tell you what, you ignore me and I'll do the same for you. How's that? Your juvenilia and snark filled drive-by's have become boring, and ad no value to the conversation.
Inflict your act on someone else.

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RubyTuesday

8:24 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Woo hoo, I'm a sock puppet. Now I can say anything I want and Michael will take the blame. Here goes: Steven, why do you constantly complain about the Watertown DPW, town council and town manager when you live in Waltham? You can't even vote in Watertown.

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Joe

10:21 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

He has all the answers, maybe he's going to run for Waltham mayor

Michael Fleming

10:52 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Careful Joe, he might think that you are just me disguised as someone else.

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Joe

3:25 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Or is it him that's disguised??? Can't you just see his name for mayor on a bumper sticker...

Michael Fleming

6:45 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Not without a picture of a clown wearing giant shoes and a red nose...

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Joe

8:43 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

True. He's been quiet lately, I saw that Patch was trying to get him to contact them, maybe he got deleted from Patch, or is signed up as another name

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

6:52 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Boys,

Do your Mothers know you are in the basement again, on the computer?

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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JL

8:03 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Anyone but Markey. He's a moon-bat. He's for programs that cost money, don't produce anything, and do not actually accomplish what they say they will. Want to get the economy going, lower taxes, it's works every time under every administration, but the moon-bats know better... Ask Ed how his grand kids are going to pay for our debt.

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wiley coyote

8:20 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Markey has become Ineffective and is just going through the motions. Lynch gets my vote by default. If the Republicans can produce anyone with substance, Then that's where my vote goes. As JL stated above. Anyone but Markey!

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Aron Levy

2:41 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013

How is he ineffective? I think he has been doing a fantastic job as chair of the Communications Subcommittee.

wiley coyote

8:48 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

@ joe. that's cause he was using the name of a real person. That person had no idea until they were contacted about it. So he was posing.

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Joe

9:01 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

That's awful, hopefully they'll delete all his postings under that name, wonder what name he'll appear as now. Thanks Wiley

wiley coyote

9:05 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

He will. he has had many incarnations. You can always tell. He is easy to figure out.

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Michael Fleming

9:56 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

He uses the name Cavaretta in many posts. Keep an eye out for him.

CP

6:31 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013

Who really knows what either of these guys really are. They can tell you whatever they want to get your vote. I don't trust these polititians. Maybe I'll stay under the covers. Of course then I would never be able to blame anyone but myself unlike the pres.

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Joseph G. Paquette

6:18 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Markey ...hands down, period.
I am looking for someone who will fight for us
in and/for the battles of the future today!
Not ongoing fighting the battles of the past,
under a different banner to no avail.
Has anyone considered just how far the USA
is behind in today's marketplace much less tomorrows?
In just the last few weeks, China, Mexico, and several other
nations have all announced high speed rail projects,
while the Governors of several states have refused
to accept already approved Federal dollars for such projects.
Markey has the vision to cast the votes needed for just such a future.
Not out of some well meaning concept, but to respond to the need required!

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wiley coyote

8:08 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Lynch...hands dpwn. Markey at one time was a fighter and took a stand for the little guy, but no more, He has become quite happy enjoying the political life and the comforts associated with it. What has he done over the last two terms? Co chair of the comminications comittee? Wow... big deal.

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Michael Fleming

9:19 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Joseph
You think that a country's progress is measured by such boondoggles as multi billion dollar waste of time as high speed rails when the people on them can't afford to pay the ticket fees? How about jet packs and spandex jackets for everyone? Oh! I wanna be futuristic! We can't afford to pay for our own doctors bills or heating oil for winter much less these stupid grand utopian mega projects that are designed to ferry low wage workers to and from their minimum wage jobs. The tax payers will end up paying for these projects and once built, subsidize the fares. They make no sense, make no money and only end yet another tax burden for those who don't use the services. Let China waste it's money. We don't need to keep up with the Joneses, especially if they live in Greece or Italy. We need to be fiscally wise and financially prudent. The high speed train Acella between Boston and New York is broke.
Take a hint.

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dan

9:44 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Joseph G. Paquette,
Markey “ who will fight for us in and/for the battles of the future today!”
For years, Markey chaired a committee that fought for cable TV rates. Each month that I pay a Huge fee for cable, I think of Markey

For over thirty years, Markey fought to stop oil refineries in this country while vehicles increase five fold, I think of Markey each time I fill the my vehicle’s gas tank, at almost $4.00 a gallon.

Markey is not fighting for the little guy.

Yet, We deserve the government We vote for.

Joe Bill

7:36 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Talk about picking the lesser of 2 evils. Each of them are liberals who will have their hands in your wallet once elected. We're all doomed.

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Moudsie

10:22 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

I have to laugh at the person who said we have the best healthcare in the world -- no we don't -- we're not even in the top 5 -- sad but true -- and our costs are among the highest -- read up the new Life Magazine on health care and meds -- plus another guy has proven it costs like $28 to process -- PROCESS - a claim from a private insurance company -- it costs under a dollar to process a Medicare/Medicaid claim -- imagine the savings on this alone if we had a single-payer plan -- it boggles the mind.

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Michael Fleming

10:31 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Aron
Actually we DO have some of the best healthcare in the world. There are many different studies that show our heal care outcomes are among the highest in the world. And my passport is covered in stamps. Many of the hospitals in other countries provide a basic low level care available to everyone, which I applaud, but expensive, invasive treatments and diagnostic procedures which require a huge outlay of investment money are just not available.
I recently spent 6 months in Buenos Aires and the German Hospital (considered the best one in a city of 14 million souls) was just last year getting its first 256 cut CT scanner. The doctors there hadn't even heard of the gamma knife or the DaVinci surgical robot which is cutting edge in many hospitals here. Aron, it was a very basic level of care being offered in the best hospital in the city. I have found this to be true in many countries I've visited, including Mexico, Bejing and Cuba. ( yes, I've been to Cuba) Michael Moore was duped, and you are being duped too. France? Germany? Cutting edge, yes. But you cannot sue your doctors there. Ever. But most countries just offer you a bed to wait for death in. It only LOOKS like you are being given "healthcare", but in reality, its just band aids and neosporin...

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Aron Levy

1:12 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Then perhaps the excellent care I received in Italy and England was just a fever dream.

As Moudsie has said, we're not even ranked among the top five for quality anymore. But we sure are number one when it comes to costs.

Michael Fleming

2:25 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Costs are a result of a variety of factors. We have to practice defensive medicine here in the states and in other countries that are not so litigious are not burdened with the costs of practicing medicine in an environment where lawsuits abound, not only from private citizens but by our own government as well. Your ability to sue your doctor in other countries is highly limited and contingency fee lawsuits (you can file a lawsuit for free and need only pay the lawyer if you win) do not exist. That alone drives up the cost of practicing here in America. That is, by the way, thanks to your fellow democrats the trial lawyers association. So yes, our costs are WAY too high, but that doesn't mean our healthcare is bad. We also have the most technologically driven form of healthcare, which as you can guess, is VERY expensive. We are also a nation of fatties, smokers and Pringles addicts, where in Italy and other places, they do not eat when they get bored, they eat because it's mealtime. Yes Aron, other countries have some good healthcare, not disputing that. But Americas healthcare draws patients from around the world so they can get the LEVEL of care that they can't get elsewhere. And the studies about quality care are controversial and by no means comprehensive, with many contradicting studies by Harvard and Johns Hopkins saying the opposite of what you are contending. By the way....Why is it you feel it so important to give the impression that healthcare is so lousy here?

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Moudsie

4:54 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

It's not an impression that our healthcare is bad -- it's a fact -- people have done studies and we rank down below 5 -- deal with it -- why do you think people go to foreign countries for surgery now? Because they get better care and it's more affordable.

Michael Fleming

2:45 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Also Aron, I'm going to guess unless you suffer from some chronic disease, or a major accident befell you in two separate countries (Dude! You should avoid traveling! It doesnt sound healthy for you!) whatever healthcare you received in Italy and the UK, was probably as a tourist. Which means it was some form of minor problems that usually plague visitors, like diarrhea or a minor laceration from a broken bottle of wine. The difference in real healthcare is when you get a serious problem, like renal failure requiring acute or chronic dialysis or a major surgery like a brain tumor or long term chemo- therapy. I am pretty confident that you DIDN'T explore their health care system in that depth. Getting hemorrhoid cream or boil lanced at the local doc-in-the-box is a FAR cry from having to get on a waiting list for a liver transplant and all the hellish red tape, bureaucratic committees, permission seeking, approval waiting, and teeth gnashing that such REAL medical needs in those countries require. (that stuff is expensive! You think youll get a surgery like that right away when the citizens themselves put no money into the mix? Nope. There are hoops aplenty to jump through. Your logic circuits should tell you that) I mean...you'll get your expensive health care all right, if you qualify and are not to old, and you can manage to live through the wait times just to see a specialist.
Like I said, most countries provide superficial care like first aid rather cheaply.

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Aron Levy

6:08 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

I wouldn't exactly call a double compound fracture from getting your leg crushed under a bus in Italy all that trivial. And I was there studying. My care was impeccable. And I didn't have to wait (or PAY) for anything.

And in England where I was also studying, I somehow caught MRSA, which they thankfully caught very quickly and treated. Again, free of charge.

But you're entitled to your feelings of medical nationalism. Far be it for me to deprive anyone of that.

Moudsie

4:56 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Wrong, Michael, I have already responded and nothing has changed -- our health care is not good -- check the studies.

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wiley coyote

5:17 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

aron, no doubt you recieved excellent care in italy, you were not dreaming. But we do have the best healthcare in the world there bud. Thats why people from all over the world come here, Especially to Boston when they have no place else to turn. When the case seems hopeless, they come here. Why? because it is the Best, It's not just "excellent", Its the best. Sorry you don't see that. I know this is a tired cliche' but perhaps you should think about moving overseas for you "excellent" healthcare?

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Aron Levy

6:11 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Wiley, I'm definitely considering it. If I could find a job in the analytical field I want in England, I would seriously consider moving there. I just don't know how I would feel about their surveillance state.

I am a proud Social Democrat. And I would much rather live in a 'socialist hellhole' like Londonistan than under Comrade General Secretary Obama.

wiley coyote

5:17 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Aron typos.. sorry the Best healthcare in the world HERE bud.. excuse the typos. Im trying to use an I pad... GRRRRRRRR! LOLOL

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wiley coyote

5:40 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Moudsie, where are those studies? point us in the right direction, or you post them. We would like to see them. Perjaps it will help us understand why people from all over the world travel here for critical care instead of going to one of the top 5 countries. Why does the Russian family bring their child here for critical care when the could go to a top 5? Why travel halfway around the world for sub par system? Simple, besause the best care in the world is right in our own backyard.

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Aron Levy

6:13 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

They come here because they are rich and they can affor the best healthcare.

Medicine should not be a commodity to be sold to the highest bidder. It should be a right that is GUARANTEED TO ALL.

Michael Fleming

6:14 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Wiley
Moudsie isn't wrong when he sites studies showing the US lower in rankings than several other countries. There are a number of them about. But at the heart of these low rankings is the cost per capita that we spend in obtaining these services. The Netherlands gets the highest rating, simply because it pays around 3500 dollars per capita for its care, where we rank the highest per capita cost at a little under 8,000 dollars. This is the criteria used in many studies, which leads us to the inevitable conclusion that our SYSTEM is broken in terms of how we pay for our care. I've outlined several reasons for our high costs, an obese population who also smoke between pizzas, high levels of technology, and CYA medicine which means we have to assume each patient we see will find an out of work lawyer to sue us if ANY outcome is less than perfect. These conditions don't exist in other countries, and these conditions are not taken into account with these healthcare ranking studies. They just look at dollars spent versus healthy outcomes. Do we have to fix this system? You bet. Will obamacare do it? No it will not. Costs are going UP because of that legislation.
But ask yourself, if you had a terrible health problem that needed the best doctors in the world, where in the world would you buy a plane ticket for?
A) Cuba
B) Netherlands
C) Mexico
D) France
E) Boston

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wiley coyote

6:30 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Michale. thank you, I knew some of that, but you enlightened me on the rest. I was hoping Moudsie would do that, but alas he does not. Of course Boston is the only place for the worlds best healthcare, although Houston and the west coast are also right up there. Having had life saving surgery about 8 years ago, I can say firsthand that Boston , in fact Tufts New England Medical Center (as it was called then) Saved my life. There's no place like home. Thanks for the info

Aron Levy

6:14 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

My post regarding 'Comrade Obama' was obviously satire. If he actually was a commie pinko, he's doing a pretty damned terrible job of it.

My desire to live in England and my political affiliations were genuine, however.

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Moudsie

6:29 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

I knew that -- but then again I'm a liberal and can think for myself! (don't need Rush or Faux News to tell my my thoughts). And I am so sorry you were so injured and developed MRSA -- that alone is dangerous.

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Moudsie

6:30 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

See my comment below - I agree 100% with all you said.

wiley coyote

6:27 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Aron. london awaits. They can afford it? so why nottravel to ohh let's say that excellent healthcare capital of the world known as Italy? It's closer so therefore cheaper to get there. I mean if your child needed lifesaving care that was available in London, then why come here? Simply put, it's not a question of money, it's aquetion of getting to the best healthcare you can for your child regardless of price. As for you politicale addiliations. Genuine or not I think the comment about Obama was your deep seeded realization of what he actually is.

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Moudsie

6:32 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

I believe the issue here is Aron actually had treatment in these countries -- and you--Wiley--did you or are you just spouting rhetoric because you can? Once you experience health care in various countries can you then make an informed statement. I also believe he was kidding about Obama -- to get a rise out of you GOPers.

Moudsie

6:34 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Wiley--8 years ago -- things have changed a bit -- thanks to the GOP -- but you keep your fantasy -- and yes, MA Gen. is good -- but a lot of us don't go to Boston-- we deal with the local hospitals--those have to be taken into consideration and that's where we fail miserably.

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wiley coyote

10:32 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Moudsie 8 years ago,, yes thankfully things have changed, medice has Achieved much greater knowledge and capabilities, As for local I started out at MT Auburn (local enouh for you) But was transferred becasue it was out of their league, When you are dying, you go where they send you to be helped. Local hospitals are also great, but we do fail there at times. But however you look at it. The best care in the world is right outside our door. As for disrespecting Aron., go back and read my coments, Aron is a big boy who from what I see takes as good as he gives, A little give and take is not disrespecting,, Come on Moudsie, chill out and enjoy the conversation. Or you may end up being transferred into Boston for lifesaving help.

wiley coyote

6:35 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Spouting? is that what it is when people disagree with you? post the facts Moudsie, I asked you to back up your facts and yet you have not. Wasnt disrespectful, wasnt demeaning, just asking for facts, Do you have any?

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Moudsie

6:37 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Okay, this is it and I'm done-- I looked up and gave you a link-- now you can read them for yourself--those are the facts -- and you dissed Aron, who was obviously badly injured -- and hey, what about Sarah Palin who used to sneak into Canada to get medical help! But you believe what you want -- I have other things to do -- bye

wiley coyote

6:38 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Oh and Moudsie my daughter had emergency care in the Netherlands, when she was staying at Kasteel Well. (look it up) They missed a double ear infection. She had to actually go to another hospital to get diagnosed after 3 days of intense pain.So No, I myself have not, experienced healthcare outside of the US, but in a roundabout way I have.

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Moudsie

12:58 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

And you think that wouldn't happen here in the states -- my daughter's mother-in-law was "diagnosed" with pneumonia -- in FL and come to find out -- she has pulmonary fibrosis--so guess what--it happens here -- more than you think.

wiley coyote

6:39 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

You all have a great night. Talk tomorrow.. Stay healthy!

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dan

7:03 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013

Feb, 4, 2013
The 100 workers laid off by an Andover medical-device manufacturer can thank Democratic Senate candidates Ed Markey and Steven Lynch for the loss of their jobs. Congressmen Markey and Lynch each voted for the $30 billion excise tax on medical device manufacturers, which was cited by Smith & Nephew as the direct cause of the layoffs from its Andover and Memphis locations.

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Moudsie

6:21 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

So, you would prefer a Goper? Tell me, what did Brown do for MA - -he voted against jobs in MA - - against clean air, against equal pay for women -- so what little he did do--was against women, MA and teh environment -- but hey, nothing about taxes.

Reader99

8:32 pm on Saturday, March 9, 2013

Markey because we need someone to fight for Mass. I don't see Mrs. Warren doing anything but fighting with the banks.

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Moudsie

12:59 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Oh, and we don't have banks here in MA-- gee, thought we did -- I'd say she's starting with the biggest things and working her way back, and she's been in office now a whopping 2 months -- give her some time okay.

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Moudsie

6:19 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

someone -- I don't know who - -it hasn't shown up here yet -- said "we don't need another Democratic governor ....taxes. blah, blah, balh." When will you people get it? The taxes pay for roads, police, fire, schools -- the Repukelicans don't care about all that -- they have security systems--send their kids to private schools, etc. And, if you're referring to nitwit Mitt -- he didn't lower taxes -- even though he says he did -- that was on the ballot--what he did was raise fees -- but you'd never hear him admit to tht. So, go ahead, vote GOP -- and the roads and bridges will fall apart -- you won't have decen teachers -- forget about snow plowing--but you'll save a nickle.

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Michael Fleming

6:50 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

"Repukelicans"? Really? That is SO clever. I've never heard that before. Did you come up with that yourself? Gosh, with that witty and stinging one word rebuke to the entire conservative point of view, ...I just might as well sit down and re-assess my whole way of looking at things! "Repukelicans"...see what he did there? Worked the word "puke" into the name of our party! That means by way of truth transference, he must see things more clearly than we do. With a deeper understanding that few mortal men have. That level of wit and penetrating commentary, right here on these humble pages! I am impressed! Yep. He got us there, didn't he boys?
I'm devastated. ...Really.... I've been schooled.
I didn't even need to read the rest of the wisdom and insight that he wrote, ya know? It wouldn't be NEAR the level of cleverness that single rapier like stab to the heart rendered. "Repukelicans...". Ha! Got us there Moudsie! Keep em coming!

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Moudsie

6:58 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

No worse than what you GOPers call us Democrats -- but again, you all can dish it out, but you can't take it -- and face it - -the GOP has pretty much had it -- they are so far right they are over the edge. You don't need to read teh rest -- it's just that we need taxes to keep things moving (police, fire, teachers, road work, social services, etc.). It's all about money -- (and power) and the GOP wants as much $$ as tjhey can grab for themselves--that's the bottom line.

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Michael Fleming

7:24 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Dude...I NEVER resort to such....wait a minute....I DO call you Democrats! Isn't that what you call yourselves? If you don't like "Democrats"...what DO you want us to call you? That is the official name of your party isn't it? I'm confused.

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Moudsie

7:34 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Michael--I don't see your current post here -- and I've seen Democrats called Dimocrats -- and other names -- but I have found the GOPers, as stated, can dish it out, but can't take it --

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Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

7:43 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Republican Proverb:

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and
he will eat for a lifetime.

Democrat Proverb:

Give a man a welfare check, free cell phone, free Internet, cash for
his clunker, food stamps, section eight housing, free contraceptives,
Medicaid, ninety-nine weeks of unemployment, free medicine, and he
will vote Democrat the rest of his life, even after he is dead.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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wiley coyote

8:36 am on Monday, March 11, 2013

Truer were were never spoken. It amazes me how many are just content to sit back and watch the world go by and collect the freebies while the rest of us work. The part that gets me is that no matter how hard I work and play by the rules, I am the one paying the price to keep them in a lifestyle they have grown to enjoy. Nice cars, Free healthcare , Cell phones, etc etc. Courtesy of Deval, Obama, and crew.

Michael Fleming

9:08 pm on Sunday, March 10, 2013

Moudsie
I could see your silly name calling, MAYBE in response of someone else initiating it towards you. But for you to just include dumb, hackneyed, unclever cliches out of the blue, just because you can, is really distracting to whatever actual point you a trying to make.
Yes, I've seen "Dimocrats" and other versions. And I think the same exact thoughts about that author as I did in my sarcastic rant above about you. It's just HIGH SCHOOL man.
I can tell you've got a salient point buried beneath all the name calling. Don't you want readers to know what that point is? Isn't your point valid and pertinent enough for you to want it to be considered? When you use "Repukelicans" and other such crapola, what ever GOOD point is missed, glossed over, ignored, because no adult wants to get into a Jr. High chop fight, and they just scroll down to the next comment. Sorry, its just too easy to move on.
I would LOVE to intelligently engage you on a subject. But if I have to wade through unfunny juvenalia to get to it, my energy level is only so high, and I'm not gonna waste it on worthless exchanges. I don't think anyone else will either. It's a matter of being taken serious, ya know? I'll bet you're smart. Let's see, shall we?

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Moudsie

9:16 am on Monday, March 11, 2013

Ah, Michael--I am smart -- smart enough to end this verbal volley -- go bother someone else.

M C Stringfellow

8:19 am on Monday, March 11, 2013

The Democrat Party is a little like the Aesop fable "The Ant and the Grasshopper". ' Vote for me and I will give you everything you want and you will not have to work another day in your life' ". Slavery at its prime. People didn't get freedom, they just changed their chains.

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M C Stringfellow

8:27 am on Monday, March 11, 2013

Of course its kind of reversed. The Ant being the Democrat party(who doesn't work very hard at anything except taking money thru taxes) and the grasshopper being the recipient of all the giveaways and the Ant takes from us. The world does not owe a living to anyone.

Michael Fleming

9:27 am on Monday, March 11, 2013

Moudsie
Ahhh...failed the challange did ya? I asked to engage in an intelligent interchange without the name calling with you. What did you do? Ran like a whipped dog.
...I figured.

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Moudsie

9:42 am on Monday, March 11, 2013

No, I didn;t fail anything--and for someone who doens't go in for name calling -- you seem to manage -- in any event-- I prefer to think I took the higher road - but you keep on posting and I'll just delete--I have other things to do that spar.

Moudsie

9:46 am on Monday, March 11, 2013

Where do you all get the free healthcare, free cell phone thing? I keep seeing this and find no basis -- is this what Rush tells you? No one gets free healtcare -- Medicare--we pay--Medicaid -- they pay -- comes out of the SSI as far as I know -- the only ones getting free anytihng are the policiticans and the GOPers want more and more - -

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wiley coyote

9:59 am on Monday, March 11, 2013

I couldn't post the link. Look up Gina Loudon, Townhallfinance.com Check under Obama phone. I think it explains it pretty well

Moudsie

10:10 am on Monday, March 11, 2013

I did -- not impressed -- she is just a talk show host (most likely slanted to the right) -- and yes, I've seen the free phone deal -- so what and I could probably find another article written by someone on the left who supports it and has a good argument--

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M C Stringfellow

12:24 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

Why is it that every time a person is asked to check out a report, video, newspaper or any commentary, the person doing the reporting is always considered "slanted to the right". Not every one can be like Dan Rather or Chris Matthews (really left). Could they not just be reporting the facts. Facts are hard to dispute.

Michael Fleming

10:12 am on Monday, March 11, 2013

For every dollar we personally pay into medicare, we get 3 dollars benefit. It is not related to SSI. So yeah, that pretty much makes it a government gimmie.
Free phones? Thats an easy one. Google "Free government phones" Pick the first thing that comes up. Its called Assurance wireless and it is a FEDERAL lifeline assistance program as a government BENEFIT of the Universal Service Fund. All taxpayer funded. You "find no basis" of the these things? Based on what effort? looking out your window? Do you know how easy Google is to use?
Let me ask you this question Moudsie,... is everything you disagree with always related to Rush Limbaugh? Is that like, a voodoo doll for you or something? You don't even BOTHER looking this stuff up before posting it onto these pages. You just blurt out "Rush"! "Tea Party"! "Military Industrial Complex!"
Let me retract the challange I made to you earlier. I can see I misjudged your capabilities.

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wiley coyote

10:16 am on Monday, March 11, 2013

Moudsie, i gave you a link to check out, I picked the one I thought you could understand, You asj]ked for some info, I gave you some. Google Safe Link, Google free phones. Whatever floats your boat. I personally know one peron who gets it for free with 250 minutes which she says can be rolled over, though I havent seen that anywhere, I knew you would try and put it down, You asked and recieved do with the info what you wish

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Michael Fleming

1:32 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

Wiley
Don't make the same mistake I made with him. I thought he might be interested in an actuall exchange. Nope. I referred an answer about college PC-ism to Aron awhile back and he dismissed it out of hand because it was from the Pulitzer Prize winning conservative Hoover Institute (You know, the one that is based in that bastion of right wing nuttery, Stanford University) A scholarly think tank that deals with all issues from a conservative view point. No radical departures, just the smart guys of the right. (Rush isn't allowed in the door) He immediately dismissed it, it being conservative you see. He and Moudsie and others of the left ilk cannot tolerate a conservative arguement, even when it is made by NON radical authors. It is the fact that it is CONSERVATIVE, period, is what causes them to dismiss any input into their ears or their minds. They are already formed beings, with nothing to learn and nowhere to go. They are not interested in any real exchange. They are here to spread their leftist message and then cut out. Not to compare reasoning, or to examine their own thinking. (see my offer of an intelligent non name calling exchange with Moudsie above, and take note of his response) There is no hope of a middle ground as Earnhardt and I have concluded. These guys are merely the early forms of what will become future propaganda ministers. Critical thinking and scepticism is dead.
It died in our colleges years ago. It's necrotic stench continues on these pages

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Earnhardt

9:02 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

See Michael? there is no middle ground with some people. no matter what you show them, they dismiss it as if they were a game show host dismissing the runner up. It's never good enough, Never a point of view they can consider even if they don't agree with it. So therefore the hope of middle ground is lost.. There are a few on here that can exchange a spirited give and take, But then you have the Moudsies of the world......

Earnhardt

9:04 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

I Picture Wiley throwing his hands up and walking away,,, LOLOL

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Michael Fleming

9:36 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

Earnhardt, Wiley, MC Stringfellow...
Yeah, I'm about 2 inches from doing that myself.
It's so sad, ya know? Make a lib use logic and not his "feelings", insist that they use respect instead of name calling in any discussion ...and it's like you've cut out his tongue or something.
And they call Conservatives "anti-science"!
Ha!

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Earnhardt

9:43 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

Michael. on certain threads I think it is better to walk away, It's better to know you are the open minded one than the one who refuses to see anything but what he can see with their tunnel vision views. Remember people at one time refused to believe the earth was round too. I'm walking away from this one In the same way I walked away from the best healthcare issue, You can't reason with a closed mind,Ill meet up with you on the next story! :)

wiley coyote

8:36 am on Tuesday, March 12, 2013

@ Michael. I'm done with it too, In Fact, I may just stay out of these political threads altogether... Wait... on second thought.... Nope! Ill be back!

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Michael Fleming

8:43 am on Tuesday, March 12, 2013

I hear you brothers! Besides, I think he's fled the scene anyway.
See you around the water cooler!

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