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POLICE LOG: King Gas Overfuels Another Car
An excerpt from the WPD police log. The following arrest information was supplied by the Woburn Police Department. The arrest does not indicate a conviction.
The following is an excerpt from the Woburn Police Department log. Please note that this is a sampling of activity in the log, not a complete account. We report all arrests included in the daily police log.
Featured Call of the Day:
April 9 – At 4:54 p.m., police were dispatched to the King Gas station. According to police, a woman requested $40 in gasoline from the attendant, but was given $61. The attendant asked the woman for the money, which she did not have. Police told the attendant he could pursue the matter in Woburn District Court.
Other Incidents:
April 8 –
At 1:54 p.m., police responded to a medical aid on Pleasant Street. According to police, officers came into contact with blood during the response. One man was taken to Winchester Hospital.
April 9 –
At 9:25 a.m., a 39-year-old Medford woman was summonsed to Woburn District Court for unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle and unsafe operation of a motor vehicle. According to police, the woman was stopped on Cambridge Road after an officer observed her slamming on the brakes, causing a loud noise and smoke from the tires, and landing in the middle of a traffic light intersection.
At 1:54 p.m., police responded to a two-car accident on Cambridge Road at Bedford and South Bedford.
At 4:44 p.m., a Ward Street man reported his 10-speed bicycle stolen. According to police, the bike is described as gray in color with a ripped seat.
At 7:54 p.m., police responded to a report of a malicious destruction of a vehicle. According to police, the victim reported an acquaintance smashed a rock through the car’s windshield when he told the man he did not want to purchase marijuana from him.
At 9:22 p.m., police stopped two vehicles after it appeared that one vehicle was following another. According to police, officers stopped the vehicles and learned that one driver was harassing another over a relationship. Police separated the two parties. Before police cleared the scene, the driver who left sent the other another harassing text message and called. Police advised the victim to obtain a restraining order in Woburn District Court.
At 9:38 p.m., a Pearl Street resident reported his home broken into sometimes between 6 and 9 p.m. A flat screen TV and other items were stolen, said police.
April 10 –
At 6:04 a.m., police responded to a report of a couple fighting in the street. According to police, a couple argued in their car in Burlington before driving back to Woburn. A 30-year-old Sheridan Street man was taken into custody and charged by Burlington officers for the assault that occurred in that town in the vehicle.
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Chris Murphy
12:36 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
King gas strikes again. What is this the 4th time making the log within a months time?
Athena
12:36 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
Ive never been to King Gas, but maybe someone should report them to the National Institute of Standards and Technology. From a website:
" The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) assists local, state and federal governments by setting forth uniform standards for measurements, laws and practices. The NIST shuts down any pumps that measure a difference greater than 3.3 ounces per every 5 gallons of gasoline. Contact the NIST relay office at (800) 877-8339."
Read more: Who Do You Report Gas Pump Fraud To? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_5684842_do-gas-pump-fraud-to_.html#ixzz1reMVix5L
David Chesler
12:44 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
If I understand correctly, nobody has alleged the pump is inaccurate, only that the attendant served more than requested, or that no gas was pumped, driver didn't notice, and paid anyway.
David Chesler
12:36 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
King Gas all the time.
My complaint, the attendant didn't come over to my window, wanted the passenger to open the window and me to lean over (and I even parked driver side to the office.)
And I asked for a fillup but he didn't top it off because the first click was just a penny over a full dollar, so now I have to guess my MPG.
Seriously people, I go there, I get gas, I pay money. They're usually a couple of cents less than the other two on the block (who would be higher still if he weren't pulling them down.) If he's just raised his price and Best hasn't caught up I'll go to Best and pay the same price with a credit card for 88 octane gas.
There's no self serve, so you've got to watch the pump, but what else is there to do while you're getting gas? And if you get more than you asked for, pay for it (if not today, then tomorrow) -- you're just going to need it anyway, and if the price went up you've saved a nickel.
woburn resident
3:51 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
well david your a fool if you let people walk all over you. you deserve to get ripped off
Mary J. Sawyer
12:56 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
Some of us go to a gas station with just enough cash in our pocket to pay for the gas we ASK for...so the idea that "if you get more than you ask for, pay for it you're just going to need it anyway" is ridiculous. We should NEVER have to pay for more than what we asked for...it's called ripping off the customer and it's bad business practice. They should have their license revoked.
Athena
1:47 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
I agree with Mary.. how can anyone be defending king gas when they have had the POLICE called on them four times by consumers? wow..
Athena
1:46 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
If i ask for 40 bux of gas and they FORCE me to pay for 60?! Hello! That is completely absurd and they should be investigated. Something is not right over there..
David Chesler
2:06 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
Ripping off the customer is not delivering what's paid for.
No, you shouldn't be forced to pay for it, especially not immediately, but this is a low-margin business that has saved me a few dollars over the years, and I'd hate for them to go out of business because customers are taking advantage of their mistakes. (Is it deliberate? Do they need the business that badly that they try to sell an extra 5 gallons knowing they may not collect, knowing the bad will it generates? Or is this a manifestation of the same incompetence [and/or lack of English skills] that I had to say "Fill up" three times before he understood what I was trying to buy.)
Disclaimer, I made the same mistake in my youth, before pumps were computerized. I apologized to the customer, she paid for the gas she got, end of story.
It's annoying -- if you'd wanted $61 of gas you'd have asked for it in the first place -- but unless the price is dropping, or your next fill was going to be someplace cheaper (can you make it to New Jersey on one tank?) when it's done you're not materially harmed. If you don't have the cash, and I'm usually short of ready cash myself, they've got no business asking for it on the spot, but if you think you should get it free, instead of paying for it the next time it's convenient after you would have bought it, you're being a bad sport.
What's four times got to do with it? How many complaints (not investigations) until they're indefensible?
woburn resident
3:54 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
how can customers always be wrong if it keeps get reported to the police every time a different customer has this done to them. give it up david they are wrong and they should be made to go out of business.
Mary J. Sawyer
3:39 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
There are plenty of reputable gas stations in Woburn who charge similar rates yet provide better service than KIng.....Prime on Lexington St., for example and NO ONE should be forced to pay for something they didn't ask for, end of story. I wouldn't expect to pay for items at the grocery store that I didn't put on the conveyor belt so why is this any different? Something is shady about that gas station and it won't be long before the authorities catch on and shut them down.
Athena
3:41 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
Exactly!!!
Athena
4:16 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
Wow. I just did a search on Woburn Patch for King Gas... they have been reported to the police report FIFTEEN times going back to march 2011...
Shawn W
5:54 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
That's not including the King Gas in Dedham. I have talked to the Dedham Police and they get called there frequently for the same thing.
Shawn W
10:44 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
Same owner, also.
Amy Abbott
10:35 pm on Tuesday, April 10, 2012
I went to King Gas for an inspection sticker last year and they told me that I needed $600 of front end work and gave me a rejection sticker. I went to two other mechanics and they couldn't find anything wrong with my car. They told me I should report them to the RMV, but I never did. Same thing happened to my friend a few months ago, he went in for a sticker, they told him he needed front end work and his own mechanic found nothing wrong. Maybe they do need to be investigated for all these shady dealings.
Earnhardt
10:30 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
They cannot make you pay for spmething you did not order. Its that simple. Thats an old trick. whenever they are short at the register, they pull that to make up the difference, Usually its charging for gas not pumped. Funny how its always King... of all the stations right in that area, its always King..... Hmmmm
David Chesler
10:46 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
No they can't make you; I'm still not seeing how anyone is harmed by paying for gas they got that they were going to need soon enough anyway? (Like I said, they really didn't top it off, in other words they sold me less than I requested -- that was equally annoying because I like to calculate my MPG, but it's hardly a police matter.)
Charging for gas not pumped is no different than mugging you, but the complaint here is they overpumped. How can that make up a shortage at the register?
I checked this morning, I don't think NIST inspects them, but the pump seemed to have a current seal from the local Weights and Measures inspector. (I have no reason to think the volume is off -- I get the same MPG whether I fill up there or elsewhere.)
If I were an established local gas station owner, and some foreigners came in and started undercutting my prices, taking "my" customers and forcing me to lower my prices to stay competitive, I'd be unhappy. They make a good target.
Earnhardt
10:51 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
"Usually its charging for gas not pumped" I think that's what I said. But trying to collect for gas you did not want, sorry I won't pay. you can if you want. But I won't..
David Chesler
11:11 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
I figure no harm, no foul. (The customer is well in her right not to pay until she would have bought it, and at that lower price.) If this were an expensive station and I wanted just a few dollars worth to get home, there would be harm.
When the station on Winn St was a BP the kid pumping gas insisted he, not I, had to fill my tank. I knew the filler neck on my CJ5 was tricky, and sure enough he spilled gas down the side. That time I should have refused to pay for the gas he delivered to the outside of the Jeep, but what was it, a dime's worth?
Some twenty years ago I used the repair shop at what's now Woburn Gas and Service, when it sported a good Woburn name on the shingle. The second time they did work beyond what I requested without asking, and it was something like changing a light bulb I could have done cheaply and easily myself, I didn't go back. _That_ was a few dollars harm.
The harm alleged here is barely more than when you ask the deli guy for a half pound of cold cuts and it's always "Is a little over OK?" (granted if you say no, they take the last slice off and it's a little under.)
Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not seeing the harm in selling the customer gas she would have bought next week anyway. (Demanding payment on the spot, yes, that's a harm, but expecting it free is unjustly enriching yourself. Pay them next time.)
Earnhardt
11:17 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
Well if its ok with you, then fine, I dont have a problem with that. If I ask for 30 dollars of gas, and he pumps 50 dollars in and expects me to pay, Im not paying. I wont pay for what I didnt order. Its that simple. I dont but my gas in Woburn center anyways. As for all the other stations trying to make King look bad, It would be a pretty complex plan. I admit getting 50 dollars of gas when you wnated 30 is only 20 bucks, "No Harm" in your words. But It's thier problem not mine. If they have That much of a problem with this,it's time to fire the gas pumper.
Earnhardt
11:19 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
Oh and PS. I Do not expect anything free. I just expect to get what I pay for, no more no less.
David Chesler
11:38 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
Was that the last gas you were ever going to buy? How are you harmed $20 worth by carrying around the extra gas for a few days?
It's not at all the same as charging for gas not pumped, or reaching in and grabbing your wallet.
(Yes you're losing a few cents carrying around that extra 50 pounds of gas, and the interest you'd have made investing the $20 until you needed it to buy gas next week [absent a cash-flow problem -- in which case don't pay them until you've got it] , but I find it hard to believe it's any more than what you're over-paying wherever you buy yours every time you buy it there.)
If I'm missing something let me know.
I'd rather risk that I'll get more than I wanted than go where they trust me so little they want the cash up front, lest I gas-and-dash. (That's why the earlier complaints seemed bogus -- King doesn't ask for payment first, so you'd have to be fairly oblivious to be under-pumped, pay for a full tank, not check the pump, and only figure it out much later that your tank is empty even though you just filled up.) I suppose King could switch to payment in advance, but then customers would complain they gave $50 but the attendant set the pump to stop at $30.
Shawn W
11:46 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
A bunch of "foreign" criminals, period. Check the police log from the Dedham Police and Woburn Police.
Earnhardt
11:52 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
Dave look, it's like this: I Did not order it, So, I am NOT paying for it. its that simple. If you can afford to not worried about 20 or 30 bucks then fine, Thats great. the only thing you are missing is that If I order something thats what I expect. you want to throw your money around thats wonderful! Ill say it again: Im not looking for free anything. Im looking for what I order no more no less. You want to pay for it, thats fine. as for me. Ill do it my way. Peace to you. You have the last word, which Im sure you will use. So enjoy! Don't overpay! :) :)
Shawn W
2:23 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
My father owns a seafood business, Earnhardt. I'll drop off 100lbs of steamers to Dave's and expect the money up front whether he wants them or not. They'll eventually get eaten. I always thought extortion was illegal?
David Chesler
2:58 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
OK, Shawn, I'll pay for those steamers as soon as I would have used them, which is never, unlike gasoline that one buys every week, and that doesn't go rotten. (Again, if somebody would explain how I'm harmed by buying gas earlier than I'd intended, maybe I'd understand why the indignation.)
Is that how restaurant supply works? They place an order and you bring precisely that amount, throwing in or taking out the odd fishhead to make it even? Those "Catch of the Day" specials always led me to believe fresh seafood was an inexact science. One learns things every day.
"I Do not expect anything free. I just expect to get what I pay for, no more no less." There's no question about getting what was paid for, the question is paying for what you got. Once you've got it, you've got two choices: Pay for what you got, or keep it, thereby getting it free. (You can pay now or pay later, and I said all along a customer shouldn't be expected pay before he'd have bought it otherwise.)
Mary, I'm not sure what the principle is. I have been buying from King since they opened. I check Gas Buddy and they're often the lowest of any station near where I'll be, so that's a few hundred fills, and I've never had a problem. I appreciate that they're doing something to keep gas prices low. Is it just luck they've never over-filled me or charged me for phantom gas?
Mary J. Sawyer
2:26 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
King Gas is a dishonest establishment and I would never buy get my gas there based on principle. Why anyone would patronize a shop that screws over their customer is beyond me but good luck to those who feel it doesn't matter. It's only a matter of time before their shady business practices will come back to bite them.
Earnhardt
9:28 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012
Just keep throwing that money around David. How about throwing that extra $20 my way? as for quoting me. At least you got it right. If they want to put gas in my tank I did not want. then bank error in my favor. If you get Shawns seafood and you didnt order it. Then great for you! Don't make it sound like I'm stealing, which is what you are trying to do. I resent that. You want to pay for something you did not order, then as i said earlier thats wonderful for you. I wont be forced to pay for what I do not want. How do you know how much gas I use? here's a tip I own a 2006 vehicle with 58.000 miles on it, So as you can see. I rarely drive it. so why pay for more gas than I need? why pay for it to sit in my driveway for weeks at a time? One last time: I AM NOT PAYING FOR WHAT I DID NOT ORDER! Got it? Bye bye!
Mary J. Sawyer
11:06 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Principle - a standard of moral or ethical decision-making. I refuse to let anyone take advantage of me and so no, I would never buy gas from those thieves. However, if Mr. Chesler feels he doesn't mind paying for what he didn't ask for just so he can save himself 3 or 4 cents/gallon, good for him. I look forward to seeing the police report on Patch.com.
David Chesler
2:19 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Earnhardt, if you're providing me something I need regularly, at a good price, and I'm already buying from you, no problem give me an extra $20 worth this week (or this month if you're only driving 9,000 miles per year) and I'll pay for it.
You have to decide for yourself if getting something you need (most of us buy gas regularly) and not paying for it is stealing, or unjustly enriching yourself. Same as if a clerk gives you change for a ten-dollar bill and you only paid with a five -- you didn't ask for that extra money, so I guess you get to keep it.
Mary, I know what a principle is, I just don't know which is applicable here. I don't get how selling me next week's gas today is taking advantage of me, since I've suffered no harm. What should I believe -- people with silly complaints (overpumping is harmless; not sure how anyone fails to notice the underfills) or my own lying eyes?
Mary J. Sawyer
3:29 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Correct me if I'm wrong: you're pumped more than you asked for and you have to argue with the attendant because you don't have enough cash on you to pay for the $20 extra gas. It's either their word or yours and then the police are called to intervene...all this is considered harmless? Tell that to the police who have to keep going on calls there. And yes, the underfills have happened at this gas station too, my guess is the attendant is pumping less and pocketing the money....but that's not taking advantage of the customer....
David Chesler
3:53 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
If you have the cash pay it. If you don't have the cash, pay it when you do have the cash. The cops already told the attendant they won't address it criminally.
The flip is customers make a habit of going in and after their fifty bucks of gas are in the tank they say "I said fifteen. but I'll take the free $35 of gas thanks." -- that strikes me as the greater risk, and if that happens a lot they'll be asking for cash in advance, and that leads to "I gave you $60" "No you didn't" -- is there an end to that race to the bottom? The pump doesn't lie about how much gas was pumped.
On the underfills also the pump doesn't lie. "Doveryai, no proveryai" -- Trust but verify.
Mary J. Sawyer
4:08 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
I only keep enough cash on me for the things I need at the time and if $20 is set aside for gas, that's all they are going to get out of me. I would never pay for more than what I requested, that's just dumb,
David Chesler
4:32 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Your call. If I were going to go back there anyway, I'd pay them that next time, and figure I'm pretty much in the same position as if they'd pumped less the first time. (If this were high-priced station I wasn't going back to, and I only asked for enough to get home, then I wouldn't be in the same position if I paid their full price.)
Earnhardt
9:49 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Hey Chesler! Iv'e had it with you and that pompous attitude. You continue to hint that I am a thief, for starters buddy I have never stolen anything in my life! Now get this one last time: I WILL NOT PAY FOR WHAT I DID NOT WANT! GOT IT NOW? Stop sugesting that I am a thief. I resent it, and I resent that pompous attitude of yours. Im done with you. Please do not address me in any more of your pompous comments. GOT IT? Just in case you do not i will say it again: I WILL NOT PAY FOR SOMETHING I DO NOT WANT!
mark patterson
2:14 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012
Earnhardt,I agree with you 100%.Try not to reason with an unreasonable man.I tried doing that many times in the past and it doesn't work.Now I just nod and agree.That way the unreasonable man 'thinks' he's won the arguement.Yes them to death; it's good for their over-inflated ego!
David Chesler
3:03 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012
Mark, good advice. You're right. Earnhardt, you too, you're right.
Mary J. Sawyer
7:02 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012
Here's a question for you Mr. Chesler - if you asked King Gas for $30 in gas and the attendant put in $50 worth and you graciously forked over the extra $20 to save yourself from paying more then next time only the next time, the price of gas went down by a whole 5 cents/gallon, would you feel like they screwed you over? Because they did.
David Chesler
11:32 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012
Absolutely, Mary. When prices are dropping you want to keep money, not product. I noted this on Tuesday at 2:06pm: "unless the price is dropping, or your next fill was going to be someplace cheaper (can you make it to New Jersey on one tank?) when it's done you're not materially harmed. " In a situation like that I'd think you only ought to pay them for the price of the gas when you would ultimately have bought it. You are harmed in that case, but I'm not sure the remedy for that risk (50c) is the customer should get $20 of gas free.
Maybe it's win-win. I'll go, and watch the pump, and only pay for what's pumped in case they underpump; you can go and if they overpump you'll just keep the overage without losing any sleep.
BTW, similar discussion here:
http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130915
Mary J. Sawyer
9:28 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012
So, you're "harmless" reasoning is only applicable when it's works to your benefit - assuming the price of gas will increase the next time you might it. It doesn't necessarily matter that the attendant purposely over pumped your tank to soak more money out of you....thanks for making that clear.
BTW, I pump my own gas so I'm in control of how much is put in and how much I pay.
David Chesler
9:55 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012
Yes, that's pretty much the definition of harmless.
Last week's complaint came during a time when prices were clearly rising, so once again I don't see what game the attendant could have been playing.
That makes perfect sense, if you want that control, to pump yourself. That's a feature King does not provide. (Neither do they have free air, nor squeegees, nor credit cards, nor a convenience store...) I object that people who don't patronize them in the first place describe it as a ripoff.
David Chesler
11:52 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012
Overdue apologies for beating it to death, but what's key is the size of the harm, even if prices drop 2%, is on the order of that 2% of the overage; otherwise it's the use of the money for an extra week (or month), or the gas wasted in carrying around the extra 50 pounds of gas -- hardly any where near the proposed remedy that the customer (who is obviously someone who uses gasoline, and is willing to buy from that station [otherwise she wouldn't be going there] and the station is pretty much the low-cost bidder) should keep 100% of the overage. I likened it to the harm that they made me lean over and open the passenger window and they underpumped so I couldn't calculate my MPG. I think the legal term is "De minimis non curat lex" -- stuff happens.
The other situation alleged in earlier complaints, that the customer asked for a full tank, paid (in advance?) for a full tank, but didn't notice until she'd driven away that both the pump and her fuel gauge showed far less had been pumped, is a situation where the harm to the customer is 100% of what was charged but not delivered. That would be no different than outright theft.
Athena
1:02 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012
Seriously Chesler. I am really at a loss with what your 'argument' is here. SOMETHING FISHY is going on at King Gas in Woburn. Regardless of whether you asked for 20$ or 50$ worth of gas, regardless of whether prices are going up or down, and that people didnt know they would have to INSPECT a pump before driving away, or assume that gas station attendants are trying to rip them off, or what the opportunity cost of receiving gas you didn't ask for really is- SERIOUSLY. Something is wrong over there and that is what every single person has been saying in the comments!!!!!!!!!! All of the hot air you are blowing is unbelievable!!!! I think the last thing you said finally made sense. OUTRIGHT THEFT is going on over there.
Speaking truthfully
8:39 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I will never go to king gas...EVER. i would even pay more for my gas than to go there saving because in reality, its a rip off. I do not understand how they are still in business. Its beyond me. Perhaps ones in these situations are telling the wrong people? Try contacting the BBB get these people shut down. (and im not saying its every employee but i am saying that aside, these business is not helping anyone out by having the cheapest prices posted)
David Chesler
10:44 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
The AG was going to be launching an investigation -- what became of that?
You say it's a ripoff S.T. -- how so?
They help me by having the cheapest prices posted, but they certainly hurt the other businesses with whom they compete.
A couple of weeks ago when prices were dropping swiftly I got partial fills from them, and as has always been my experience, when I ask for $10 worth I get $10 worth. They're not always the cheapest -- check bostongasprices.com. For a while the Hess and A.L. Prime on 3A in Burlington were quite a bit lower, and the Montvale cluster was giving Woburn Center a run.
Speaking truthfully
10:52 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Im saying that if they have the cheapest prices but you have to fill up twice as much theres no savings youre spending more. Its simple marh really. And again. Its not everyone working there, and maybe it doesnt happen all the time but ive seen it enough to know its wrong. That being said, its my opinion, im entitled, and im not arguing it.
David Chesler
11:04 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
You're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to cast aspersions on businesses that compete with yours. It's true if they were short-changing they would be ripping off, but that's not the case, nor has anyone accused them of that. The base note complaint was they sold more than requested, which is no loss (or minimal loss if they drop the price before your next purchase or you would have purchased for less elsewhere.)
Assuming their pumps are accurate, I get the same MPG from them as elsewhere (and if they're not accurate then I'm getting better MPG, but I doubt they are, it takes the same gallons to get from E to F.) I know I'm getting better miles per dollar from King.
Speaking truthfully
11:10 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
How about this scenario.... You rent a vehicle a van or something to move or to take a trip and when returning the vehicle you want to pump it to where it was when you got it. You ask for 20$ they fill it and now you have to pay $45/$50.... Now your out $25-30 and you will not be using it. The rental company is not going to say "oh that stinking has station let us refund you the $25-30 extra you put in." they will say "sorry not our problem"
Speaking truthfully
11:11 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012
**gas station
Speaking truthfully
1:25 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Awwww where did ya go? No response!? You were so quick to put everyone else down on their opinions you didn't stop to think about how one sided you are about this.
Just try being more open minded. :)
David Chesler
1:39 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Right here. I said it right at the top (going back to April 11) if you were never going to buy gas again, don't pay for it. If you were going to buy gas later, pay for it later. People are treating this as if it's in the same league as shorting or out-and-out stealing. In most cases (you're right, not every case, and that's a good example) there is no harm, or about as much harm as when the deli guy gives you a little more or a little less coldcut than the exact half pound you requested. Neither is King gaining enough that's it's worth driving away customers, or risking that even one in ten customers refuses to pay for the extra.
Speaking truthfully
1:57 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Either way. I think it's wrong. Have a good day :)
Earnhardt
6:19 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
LOLOL Chesler, give it a rest! you like getting ripped off? great Go for it. You just cannot stand for people to have different opinions than you. As I have always said: I want what I pay for. No more, no less. That's all anyone except you wants. You seem to enjoy playing roulette with your wallet. But when you do get ripped off, please don't post your whinings on here ok? Let them get rich on your cash, not mine, and NOT from the people who work hard for the dollars in their pockets. Why does it bother you that people only want what they pay for? if your feeling free and easy with your cash.. I've got some great property for sale.... it only floods in 3 seasons.
David Chesler
10:44 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Of course I don't like getting ripped off. That's why I don't go to the other stations that charge more for the same commodity. I'm warned, so noted. What bothers me is people trying to shut down a station that has saved me many dollars over the years. If it shuts down I will have to pay more for gas than if it stays open. What free and easy? I drive, I burn gas, I buy more gas, I pay for what I get, and unlike you, I don't pay any more than necessary for each gallon.
Earnhardt
10:59 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
You are unlike me. Thank Goodness! Unlike you, I will pay two cents a gallon more for good service, also unlike you I watch my money closely and make sure I don't get ripped off. You have probably been ripped off there without even knowing it! I pay for only what I want, I repeat ONLY for what I want. some people like being ripped off, They are few and far between but evidently Woburn has at least one, And no surprise at all, Its you! its about service, its about honesty. Its not about saving two cents a gallon..
David Chesler
11:30 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
If I could upload pictures, I've got an image of my gas log from bostongasprices.com. Every fillup, noting the station, gallons purchased, price paid, odometer, and MPG. But if you are so much more knowledgable than I to know I've been ripped off without knowing it (but if as you say I like getting ripped off, wouldn't I prefer to go where I know I'm getting ripped off?), to know that I like to throw away money because I'd prefer to pay 2c less per gallon, and to know about the better service elsewhere (do they check your oil? wash your windshield?) then I've got to concede my ignorance. Enlighten me, how did they rip me off and sneak it by me?
Earnhardt
11:59 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
You are going where your getting ripped off. Its that simple. Keep all the logs you want, Its not that I am more knowledgeable, Its just that I would never do business with a company that has that kind of a reputation. Ill spend two cents a gallon more to get exactly the kind of product and the amount of product Im paying for. Tell me, do they check your oil? do they wash your windshield? if so, do they do it without asking? Simply put: they don't do it at all, you know it and I know it, I like peace of mind, not worrying about logs and internet gas prices,.I never claimed to be smarter than you David, you have a way of putting words in people's mouths, As I continue to state, and as you continue not to understand I want what I pay for no more no less and I am willing to pay two cents more a gallon for it. That bothers you, Keep buying where you want. When you get ripped off, remember, Dont shed your tears here,Adios. I thought this subject was dead a month ago,,But I guess some folks cannot leave things be, Peace David, Have a nice life. Gas logs... LOLOLOLOLOL thats too much!! you win!
Speaking truthfully
11:39 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Would you pay for an entire pizza if you ordered a slice?
David Chesler
11:53 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
If I buy the entire pie today is it that much less pizza I'll have to buy next week? Do I have an empty place that is good only for storing pizza that has room for the rest of it? Will it be just as good by the time I use it? Can I buy it cheaper somewhere else or at some time before I'd buy it? Do I have the cash? Is it difficult to simply return the unwanted pizza?
If all of those were true, then yes, I'd pay for the entire pie.
Earnhardt
12:00 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
Dave would,, just ask... no wait better not, it will go on. I think he has a log he checks at Bostonpizzaslices.com