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Should A Dog Kennel Be Allowed In A Neighborhood?

City Council is debating whether a dog rescue kennel should be allowed in Woburn.

 

The City Council is debating whether a dog rescue kennel facility should be given a special permit.

The council heard from Great Dog Rescue of New England at its last meeting, according to the Woburn Daily Times. During the meeting, two aldermen reportedly questioned whether the facility should be allowed.

The Great Dog kennel would be located at 34 Holton St. and serve as a facilty to house up to 36 dogs between Thursdays and Saturdays as the pups await adoption.

The owner of the building reportedly told aldermen that the kennel would be "sound-proofed" to avoid disruptions from barking.

The City Council Special Permits subcommittee will meet to further discuss the question.

What do you think? Should the city allow this non-profit organization to open a kennel on Holton Street?

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dan January 20, 2013 at 02:36 PM
Because of your not kill policy, gives the organization a positive spin as a neighbor; however, because of the organization’s connections to the prisoner program, http://www.neads.org/document.doc?id=27, the city should be concern for the safety of the children. Released prisoners from MCI Gardner could be attracted to an area where a Greater Dog rescue organization is located that is the reason for the IP2 zone location. Sex offenders use puppies and kitties to attract children to befriend them; and, with a mixed use neighborhood, such as Holton street, many of the children’s families who live in the area could not financially afford the $450.00 adoption fee for a dog. And, a child starving for the companionship of a dog could be at risk to the advances of a predator who would use a cute puppy as bait to lure the child into a dangerous situation. Does the Greater Dog rescue organization have a pet forester care program for the working poor family?
BILL, C. January 20, 2013 at 03:09 PM
seems to me we are more concerned about a dog kennel then we are about a CVS going in no woburn where school children walk all day near the park,, playground plus hundreds of cars trucks pass all day,,,, this is a dog kennel,, three days,, great people run it,, the dogs are well cared for instead of running the streets,,i live across from a vet who will house dogs for a week or two,, i smell noting and the noise is nothing to complain about,,,,,,,, there are more important things to worry about..
Betsy Herald January 20, 2013 at 03:32 PM
Thank you Bill. Dan, I understand your concerns about the Prison Program, but I think if you had all the information your worries would be completely gone. The program members are not associated with Great Dog Rescue in anyway other than training the dogs. They live in a very secluded and careful enviornment in Gardner, Ma. and are never allowed to have any information, pictures, etc... for any of the adopters who adopt the dogs trained there. They do not visit the isolation center or leave the Prison......EVER. The dogs they work with never come back to the isolation center.....so there would be no reason for them to seek us out.
Betsy Herald January 20, 2013 at 03:34 PM
One other thing to note: The handlers in the DTUA Program are not allowed to have any type of violent history. No sex offenders or violent criminals are allowed to work with the dogs at the Prison. We would never put our dogs in danger in that manner. We are likely talking guys who committed check fraud here.
dan January 21, 2013 at 12:16 AM
Yea right, check fraud, probably Middlesex or other house of correction; but MCI Gardner is a state institution; you are a bad boy to get sentence to a Massachusetts Correctional Institution. It is not a house of correction for lower level Felons and misdemeanors.
Pat January 21, 2013 at 03:24 AM
Dan I have no idea where you get your information. The prison program is run IN the prison, when the dog is trained it then goes to the new owner. You need to check facts before you make statements.
dan January 21, 2013 at 04:02 AM
You are looking at the dog. I am looking at the prisoner. Prisoners get out. After participating in a prison program that helps the inmate train dogs, the former inmate will search for the company looking for a job. The residents of the Holton street area should be aware that the dog caring non-profit company could attract former detainee from MCI Gardner.
dan January 21, 2013 at 04:02 AM
You are looking at the dog. I am looking at the prisoner. Prisoners get out. After participating in a prison program that helps the inmate train dogs, the former inmate will search for the company looking for a job. The residents of the Holton street area should be aware that the dog caring non-profit company could attract former detainee from MCI Gardner.
Betsy Herald January 21, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Dan, Note that we are a 501 C3 charity without hiring practices and only one paid employee, who is a wonderful woman. We do not provide job opportunities.
Earnhardt January 21, 2013 at 01:08 PM
Not sure about having this in that area, Holton St. has been beat up for a long time, It's a great cause, and probably one of the lower impact businesses to go in the area, but why here? why not in the Commerce way area? There are many empty buildings there that would be ideal for this business. What makes Holton St more attractive than the Commerce way area?
Betsy Herald January 21, 2013 at 01:21 PM
People should consider how important this rental is to the owner of the building. Commercial space is not all that easy to lease these days. I think having abandoned buildings in the neighborhood is much worse than a charity organization which saves the lives of animals.
Earnhardt January 21, 2013 at 01:24 PM
Well, then consider the property owners in the Commerce way area. Where this would be much better suited.I mean, explain what the attraction to Holton St. is.Help us understand, No one is arguing it's a great organization. Explain why here and not another area.
Aron Levy January 21, 2013 at 06:36 PM
Why does the location matter? If they can get a better deal on Holton St than Commerce Way, wouldn't they be foolish to take the higher rent? Come now, Earnhardt. I know you're not a fool.
Betsy Herald January 21, 2013 at 07:34 PM
GDRNE spent almost a year looking for the right location. We looked for something in a somewhat isolated location, not because we worried about us, but because we hoped to not face opposition. The offices spaces near Commerce Way are more concentrated and we worried that this would cause us issue on our approval with local businesses. To be honest, we also needed something our small budget could afford with enough space. Also, many landlords would not consider pets on the premises. Most of the places in the Commerce Way area were too large and out of our affordability range.
Earnhardt January 22, 2013 at 01:14 AM
@Aaron Levy, the location matters if residents do not want it there. Read and try to comprehend my question. Instead of making statements. And you are no fool either, that's why if you are looking to locate a business does it not make sense to look at all commercial property? Seriously, Where they need a zoning change possibly on Holton St, they may not need one on Commerce way.I asked Betsy for an explanation as to her reasons for Holton st.She obviously explained it in her above answer. I'm sure it also gives the Holton st neighbors some insight into the reason for wanting to locate there, Come on Aaron, even a guy like you knows enough to realize any and all questions in a case like this are important. Smarten up.
Aron Levy January 22, 2013 at 01:35 AM
Earnhardt, of course I understand that. I also see a strong display of NIMBYism here. And coming from Lexington, the home of NIMBYism, I would hope that people would be more open to positive businesses. And there's nothing much more positive than a temporary dog shelter. (Sorry I came off as a jerk. I just don't understand where all of this opposition is coming from. And while I understand the noise and smell concerns, I've lived next to animal shelters, and generally you'd never even know it was there.)
Earnhardt January 22, 2013 at 01:42 AM
Aaron, I am all for animal shelters, I don't even live near Holton St. But My people and I drive through there probably 50 times a week. there will be NIMBY'S everywhere obviously, I wanted her to explain, and she did, I agree with you as you probably would never know it was there. Apology accepted, It takes a man to apologize. Not every question has evil intentions. Neighbors want explanations and I felt the question was asking for an explanation, not a condemnation. All good here OK?
Aron Levy January 22, 2013 at 01:51 AM
Earnhardt, I am totally cool with you :)
Earnhardt January 22, 2013 at 01:53 AM
Peace Aron. same here, We can disagree with no insults, I am just as guilty. Cool back at ya! :)
laura January 22, 2013 at 06:50 AM
I'm a OTRA verified transporter who had driven for great Dog Rescue many times to their current kennel. Never once have I seen dog waste or even smelled any while dropping or picking up dogs from them. They run a good clean kennel and it's been a pleasure to transport for them!!!
Betsy Herald January 22, 2013 at 12:25 PM
Thank you Laura. And gentelmen above, we appreciate your discourse and are happy to address any concerns. We want to be a positive addition to Woburn and we want people to be glad we are there.
Richard Maggio January 25, 2013 at 12:35 PM
As owner of the building I had the same concerns as the neighbors. I have tenants in the building and my own office is in the building. Quiet enjoyment of tenancy is part of my lease and anything to detract from that would be problamatic for me. After much investigation I am convinced that noise and waste will not be issues. Consider that the nearest residents on Holton St. and Blueberry hill are approximately 600-800 feet away. Hearing a dog at those locations would be like having a dog bark inside City Hall and thinking you might hear it at the Library and the field behind the Library Really?
dan January 25, 2013 at 01:03 PM
Richard Just wanted to discuss the subject, have a good relationship with your new tenant. She seems to be honest and up front with her answers during the discussion.
Richard Maggio January 25, 2013 at 01:41 PM
@ Dan, contact me anytime directly if you have concerns or issues. My office is in the building. 781.491.0848 We have done our home work. This tenant will be a non issue for the residents of Woburn.
Maura B January 25, 2013 at 04:31 PM
I live up the road. The facility houses the dogs for a short period of time. I don't think there will be much disruption to the area and super happy to see another rescue group in Woburn.
Oh Woburn January 25, 2013 at 04:34 PM
As a Woburn resident, I am deeply disgusted that Woburn residents are opposing a dog shelter, especially with so many other things residents should be concerned about! Here we have a woman willing to DONATE her time to save a life (yes, animals are alive too). Yet, many residents are screaming "noise"... "waste"... "criminals". Unbelievable! Maybe you are not aware that Woburn houses somewhere around seven (and growing) 40B establishments (or projects). I'm sure these places do not attract any of the three things you're worried about..! You should most certainly direct your concern to the city passing out more of these permits, because these establishments, no matter where they are in the city, will effect you! If you're truly concerned about criminals in our city, you should start at the top. Trying to deflect criminals away from our city by getting a dog shelter shut down is almost comical. You should truly start researching your city and the people in it before you start attacking a non-profit organization. How about the halfway house in four corners (which allows criminals) located .3 miles away from an elementary school? I know I have seen them lurking around late at night, and have in fact been approached by them. The truth of it is, Woburnites only see what they want to see. Do what makes you sleep at night. Turn your head the other way.
Oh Woburn January 25, 2013 at 04:36 PM
To hear some of you complaining about waste is a complete disgrace. You people should be happy when you run your water for the first time in the morning and it doesn't smell like chlorine. Or better yet, be thankful that you can see through it. Have you forgotten your roots? And please, let's not be concerned about the sewage that dumps into our pond water whenever there's an overflow. All I’m trying to say here, is if you are disgruntled about a safe haven for dogs, you need to open your eyes. There are ENTIRE STREETS in this city that should be declared a public nuisance. Matter of fact, I’m sure a dog barking would be “white noise” to some of our residents. Why not look at the bright side of things? We will have an organization where these kids can go after school to help out, instead of strolling around Woburn center. Matter of fact, it’s been proven that troubled teens (or anyone!) can often find a connection with animals. Let people be reminded of what it means to volunteer. Let people be reminded that it takes a community help a life. Let this help our city.
LucyLoo January 25, 2013 at 05:00 PM
Well put, Oh Woburn!!!! Could not agree more!!!!!
Woof February 05, 2013 at 09:44 PM
The DTUA program is run out of the Minimum facility at NCCI Gardner. Sex Offenders are not housed in minimum facilities. FYI DAN.
dan February 05, 2013 at 11:37 PM
http://masscases.com/cases/app/82/82massappct1.html

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